tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.comments2024-02-20T05:31:26.304-05:00ItalianthroItalianthrohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09861218992434816390noreply@blogger.comBlogger812125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-23154483571905151912024-02-20T05:31:26.304-05:002024-02-20T05:31:26.304-05:00Everyone is wrong and no one is mixed in Italy. Th...Everyone is wrong and no one is mixed in Italy. They’re all white. Julie Anne Taylor is ok. No it’s obvious if people like you weren’t here there would be slot of people who would realize Italians are white. Everyone is wrong NXGNOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09541104189594387157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-82827628596720322332023-08-24T22:59:41.332-04:002023-08-24T22:59:41.332-04:00@Latinus no excluding sardinians, the fact they ar...@Latinus no excluding sardinians, the fact they are genetically isolated is irrelevant with their pigmentation similarity to the other southwestern europeans, so light-intermedium (phototype 2-3)nicohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13893423353037873610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-8348606067589415512023-04-20T04:38:22.980-04:002023-04-20T04:38:22.980-04:00"the homeland of the Indo-Anatolian language ..."the homeland of the Indo-Anatolian language family was in West Asia, with only secondary dispersals of non-Anatolian Indo-Europeans from the steppe."<br /><br />https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abm4247Crimson Guardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11622608998338145821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-23956067006888013952022-08-04T20:41:18.345-04:002022-08-04T20:41:18.345-04:00It's interesting that what Americans "see...It's interesting that what Americans "see" in terms of racial features is often very different than what people in other parts of the world see in terms of race. Eartha Kitt doesn't look like Lupita Nyongo, for example. Although her mother was identified as black, Eartha Kitt's mother may not have had 100% African ancestry, which would make Ms. Kitt less than 50% African, AGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09773837393022061139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-61513430042069059352022-04-18T12:44:18.797-04:002022-04-18T12:44:18.797-04:00@Nero Likely not. If that were the case you would...@Nero Likely not. If that were the case you would see a lot more north african related ancestry in the roman imperial samples. Instead what you find is a lot of anatolian and caucuses admixture with a significantly reduced eastern hunter gatherer component (which represents the majority of indo european influence) from the early iron age etruscan/roman cluster. This suggests strongly an originSarah Nikashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16511118359657273554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-40791916096840061502022-04-10T10:38:51.807-04:002022-04-10T10:38:51.807-04:00Wouldn't any cline towards the levant or NA ha...Wouldn't any cline towards the levant or NA have anything to do with genetic contribution from Roman colonies in those areas?Nerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04170261323963146010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-19119598264109727552022-02-16T09:57:40.022-05:002022-02-16T09:57:40.022-05:00Sarah: I agree. This map and the one for the Ancie...Sarah: I agree. This map and the one for the Ancient Greeks and Romans are really neat.Palermo Trapanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00901462766804949624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-3457425857338596932022-02-15T09:43:04.627-05:002022-02-15T09:43:04.627-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Sarah Nikashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16511118359657273554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-39094037808062626992022-02-11T11:31:27.275-05:002022-02-11T11:31:27.275-05:00Hi Italianthro: Good to see you posting again. Can...Hi Italianthro: Good to see you posting again. Can you tell me what calculator was used to do the analysis. I am not a member at Anthrogenica. Was it Eurogenes G25, K36, etc?Palermo Trapanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00901462766804949624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-3930504904777414862021-11-17T22:43:34.048-05:002021-11-17T22:43:34.048-05:00ItalianAnthro:
Welcome back, excellent article an...ItalianAnthro:<br /><br />Welcome back, excellent article and integration of the 5 published papers you cited.Palermo Trapanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00901462766804949624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-90975653530924508512021-10-30T11:44:59.035-04:002021-10-30T11:44:59.035-04:00@italosvedese
I agree. It seems the genealogy of...@italosvedese<br /><br />I agree. It seems the genealogy of the ancient and modern italians must always be posited as admixtures of Germans/gauls and jews/syrians instead of continuity from italians at every turn in places like that. The fact that they reject the ancient history which contradicts these asinine assertations without us even having retrieved ancient samples from the south or northSarah Nikashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16511118359657273554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-30635635956160526822021-10-29T13:41:13.637-04:002021-10-29T13:41:13.637-04:00Thanks for posting.
On the forum Anthrogenica man...Thanks for posting.<br /><br />On the forum Anthrogenica many users try to put their political agenda and own personal interests.<br /><br />In every thread about ancient Italian and Greek DNA, You can soon see the thread shifting focus to "Hebrews".<br /><br />They overestimate the Germanic admixture in Italy as well as the "Levantine".<br /><br />People there want to say ItaloSvedesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16018677081429813961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-80921036221498045392021-10-21T17:05:12.113-04:002021-10-21T17:05:12.113-04:00Also I agree strongly with this comment: "So ...Also I agree strongly with this comment: "So the alleged cline of Italians from Etruscans to Levantines is an illusion created by coincidental PCA positions and bad choices of reference populations for modelling."<br /><br />I think part of the problem is that people are using natufians as a supposed unmixed levantine source population on their models, when in reality lazaridis et al inSarah Nikashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16511118359657273554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-72410136843719149822021-10-18T20:01:29.643-04:002021-10-18T20:01:29.643-04:00So to comment a bit more further, the etruscans se...So to comment a bit more further, the etruscans seemed to come up as a population that overlaps contemporary northern italian and northern iberian populations - especially modern corsicans, interestingly enough. In regards to where they shifted to during the imperial era, they seemed to occupy the roman imperial cluster which overlaps sicilians, calabrese, and greek islanders. I agree that I Sarah Nikashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16511118359657273554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-40360124533896235312021-10-15T12:52:30.646-04:002021-10-15T12:52:30.646-04:00As a sidenote: my calculator is a scaled Global25 ...As a sidenote: my calculator is a scaled Global25 calculator, and I did not analyze Italian Jews in my analysis to focus more on non-Jewish modern populations of Italy.Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-26354649952296050312021-10-15T10:42:10.126-04:002021-10-15T10:42:10.126-04:00Thank you for the update.
As a contribution to th...Thank you for the update.<br /><br />As a contribution to the subject, I have analyzed all the uncontaminated Global25 ancient and modern DNA population averages from Italy plus modern Corsicans using <a href="https://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Ultimate%20World%20Deep%20Ancestry%20Calculator.htm" rel="nofollow">my Global25-based Ultimate World Deep Ancestry Calculator</a>. My calculator is the most Onur Dincerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05041378853428912894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-6633283487034806362021-10-14T14:04:39.378-04:002021-10-14T14:04:39.378-04:00Excellent write up. Glad to see you back in actio...Excellent write up. Glad to see you back in action with the flurry of new studies that have been released since you've been away. I agree with a lot of your conclusions and I think the up and coming study on iron age campanians will be extremely revealing in your hypothesis that southern italians were already heavy in CHG ancestry and both Roman imperial/Modern-like by the early iron age. Sarah Nikashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16511118359657273554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-81990989818397268662021-08-05T21:20:01.355-04:002021-08-05T21:20:01.355-04:00A study on early iron age Daunians in northern Pug...A study on early iron age Daunians in northern Puglia came out recently. You still alive Italianthro? Sarah Nikashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16511118359657273554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-27839831203903793112021-07-17T01:48:11.452-04:002021-07-17T01:48:11.452-04:00Looks like this guy has left the internet for good...Looks like this guy has left the internet for good. Have you ever noticed that he was always online for no more than a couple of hours always between 8.00 and 10.00 am of New York time zone? the only possible explanation is that he was in jail and he was allowed to use the internet only for a limited amount of time each day.Questioni di generehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02981719329417473427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-89558804886692287862021-07-03T12:15:13.543-04:002021-07-03T12:15:13.543-04:00Eartha Kitt looked like a Black woman. She didn...Eartha Kitt looked like a Black woman. She didn't look biracial at all and couldn't have passed if she wanted to. CC-Tronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04380031707826241674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-3940615590047969992021-06-17T20:39:02.527-04:002021-06-17T20:39:02.527-04:00@ponto I agree that the consistant references to &...@ponto I agree that the consistant references to "middle eastern iranian" ancestry were deceitful and likely intentionally so to push a political agenda in poor form. If you look at the early imperial samples from this study through a G25 calculator analysis when comparing various ancient populations from the iranian neolithic and caucuses very few actually have iranian proper ancestrySarah Nikashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16511118359657273554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-9600666994226160422021-06-17T17:38:44.731-04:002021-06-17T17:38:44.731-04:00What is the scale on these? If my intuition serves...What is the scale on these? If my intuition serves me correctly, each one is on a separate scale, so you couldn't compare across plots?Hannah Mootshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12421575066561600696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-38522351590981061812021-06-08T18:04:43.423-04:002021-06-08T18:04:43.423-04:00I agree that there wasn't anything unexpected ...I agree that there wasn't anything unexpected that really came out of it. What I find most interesting actually is that the absolute highest IE rich individuals found within in italy during the late bronze and iron age appeared to overlap balkanic populations such as romanians on the PCA they gave. This implies that the IE branch of proto-italic languages (as opposed to rhaetic/etruscan) Sarah Nikashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16511118359657273554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-29603769747479963392021-06-08T14:29:21.355-04:002021-06-08T14:29:21.355-04:00I don't know, I only read the paper once and p...I don't know, I only read the paper once and press releases/synopses twice. There really isnt any big changes to speak of and the way they talk is kinda awkward at times. With their Sardinian they say is basically a Neolithic Anatolian/WHG mix that would form into their new western Neolithic European group.<br /><br />It should be noted that Yamnaya/Steppe people were a mixed population Crimson Guardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11622608998338145821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5767646968911347208.post-73992864381532044342021-06-07T16:15:04.554-04:002021-06-07T16:15:04.554-04:00"These results of this study have shown that ..."These results of this study have shown that the genetic profile of ancient individuals from the Italian Peninsula changed with the movement and settlement of humans since the Neolithic. This knowledge enlightens us on our genetic origin and enables plans for further studies including a denser sampling of individuals dated to the Iron Age and Roman empire," concluded Scheib. <br /><br /Sarah Nikashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16511118359657273554noreply@blogger.com